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Branko Milanovic's avatar

There is no shadow of a doubt that both Athens & Sparta were deeply unequal societies; with Athens 2/3 being slaves and non-citizens and Spart possibly 4/5. Solon's and Lycurgus' equality did not extend to them. I have clarified that & am sorry that I did not say it clearly originally. Williams says it unambiguously. Similarly, McMahon makes a leitmotiv of this equality by exclusion. I hope things are clear now.

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VNodosaurus's avatar

Describing Classical Sparta as having "expunged inequality" is strange. We're talking about a society where more than 80% of the population was enslaved (in a system known for its brutality even compared to other systems of slavery), the majority of free men were non-citizens, and even among the citizens there was a lot of inequality (and citizens who couldn't meet the wealth quota lost their citizenship, leading to the citizen population decreasing exponentially with time).

But the reputation of equality comes because ostentatious display of wealth was banned, and the elites' wealth was *land*. And the Marx quote makes me think of aristocrats shaking their fists at the bourgeoisie, and the rural landowner who looks down on the urban capitalists for their greed, because he doesn't work for his money and so greed doesn't serve a purpose for him. Who can, however, still be correct about the corrupting effects of greed.

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