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I interviewed Bai Tongdong in 2011 and he argued the same things, perhaps less systematically. At the time, even if I didn't agree with it, I found quite brilliant (and very Chinese) the idea that it would be useless to pursue an impossible equality, so let's try to make inequality useful for everyone. However, it also seemed quite obvious to me that he intended above all to give an "international" status to neo-Confucianism, inserting it into the debate on justice "à la Rawls" and making it completely compatible with capitalism. From my point of view, these conceptions are the snapshot of the "ideal" Chinese system, they try to marry Confucius with the Leninist avant-garde and at the same time with the market. In this sense, they are also a warning to the CPC in order to be always efficient and paternalistic, not corrupt. Moreover, it is also explicit in the latest resolution on history by the CCP (2021) that Marxism remains as a scientific theory of development whose culmination is the realization of "Chinese values"

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‘…the “ideal” state, according to Bai’s own rules, could be regarded by a liberal democratic state as a yi state because it does not accept democracy and the rule by the people’

Time and time again it is unbelievable how hardcore liberals keep promoting the democratic swindle about western bourgeois parliamentarism by parroting those empty stereoptypes about freedom and democracy, like there were the slightest idea about a ‘rule of the people’ and a ‘state of law’ in western liberal political affairs if you give that claptrap a reality check. It is following the tried and tested pattern of constant repetition just so it gets some kind of semblance of reality and truth if you repeat it often enough. Marx devestating dictum of the ‘democratic swindle’ holds true…

And the statement that ….’this unequal order had some chances to be accepted, tacitly or not, thousands of years ago, but it has (close to) zero chance to be accepted today’… just leaves one speechless, given the US drive to world hegemony, fascist tendencies among liberal political elites in the west and the blatant inequalities in economic and social class relations in developed nations. The statement disqualifies itself. Only some privileged upperclass liberal can argue like that…

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